Hmm...

What do you do when someone points out an error? You clarify yourself without actually checking to see if you made an error. Albert Wu writes:

Thanks for pointing out the error, but I believe it was more because I worded it incorrectly. It was meant to convey that you need a Senator to sponsor you to even become a student group in the first place.

Also, I hope to dispel some of your conceptions about Senators/Student Action, but I understand why you might be skeptical about that as I am as well. Anyways, I hope to meet you someday, but if not, happy blogging.

So, this doesn't do much to dispel one conception about Senators, which is that they don't know their own rules and have no interest in finding out what they are.

Sponsorship is generally done through a bill, and bills can be sponsored by any elected official, some other folks on committees, and even through a petition. You don't need to get a Senator to sponsor it. But instead of checking on this, Wu went ahead and "clarified." Note, of course, that the "clarification" (which seems to reinforce that the original statement was wrong) includes the incorrect suggestion that you need ASUC approval to be a student group, but I guess we can write that one off as carelessness.

(Just for fun, fill in the blanks for the deleted posts in the "discussion" section in the ASUC Senate Facebook Forum. They may have just been trivial mistakes, but now that they've been deleted, it's more fun to use our imagination. I think they were winning Powerball numbers for next week, but were deleted because California isn't part of Powerball.)

posted by Beetle Aurora Drake 6/21/2007 01:12:00 AM #
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perhaps someone would like to remind Mr. Wu that one can be a student group without being an "ASUC-sponsored" student group as well. In fact, one of the ASUC's requirements for student groups is that the OSL recognize you as such.

# posted by  Anonymous : 6:38 AM, June 21, 2007

 

Are you sure about any elected official being able to be a sole sponsor of a bill without at least one senator being involved, Justin? I remember voting on something a few years ago creating more of a separation of powers so that that would no longer be allowed. My memory is, however, admittedly hazy.

# posted by  jimf : 6:53 PM, June 21, 2007

 

I don't recall anything like that. Currently, as defined in the By-Laws (Title I, section 4.1.8 if you want to look it up), it's as I described, though it's certainly not beyond the realm of possibility that the By-Laws are lagging behind the actual law.

# posted by  Beetle Aurora Drake : 7:01 PM, June 21, 2007

 

Tried to do some more research, and I think what I'm remembering might have been proposed but not passed by voters. The thing I'm vaguely remembering is Proposition 3 in 2001.

# posted by  jimf : 7:15 PM, June 21, 2007

 

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